The Sarasins saw the Toala as a residue of a pre-AN "Veddoid
" population, with a culture that was transitional between Paleolithic and Neolithic.
 In India the HbS was first detected in Veddoid
tribe in Nilgiri hills of Tamilnadu, in 1952 by Lehman and Cutbush.
Only the "Veddoid
" substratum component invoked by some theories would be potentially supported, based on the index similarities between Veddas and Indians.
Another group related to the first modern settlers of the region are the Veddas who originally included the Veddas of Sri Lanka and other now marginal Veddoid
populations from the south of the Indian subcontinent, the Nicobar Islands, Sumatra and Malaysia, lower Laos and Sulawesi.
Most other authors dabbled in the raciology of the time, associating "Sakai" with "Veddoids
" etc., and "Semang" with the so-called "Negrito" populations found also, it was thought, in the Philippines and the Andaman Islands.
Let us mourn their passing: the Armenoids, the Assyroids, the Veddoids
, the Orientalids, the Australoids, the Dalo-Nordic, the Dilish, the Alpines, the Dinarics, the Fenno-Nordic, the Osteuropids, the Lapponoids, the Osterdals, the Cappadocians, the Danubians, the Ladogans, the Trondelagens, and the Pile Dwellers.
These are the peoples who are usually termed "Proto-Malay" in the earlier literature (following a now discredited "wave theory" concerning entrants to the Malay peninsula, in the order: Negritos, Veddoids
, Proto-Malays and Deutero-Malays).